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[−]pjmlp · 2026-10-11 Sun 08:52 UTC · link
Programming languages and OS alternatives still missing from the list.
[−]lionkor · 2026-10-11 Sun 09:11 UTC · link
Ideally those are free and open source
[−]pjmlp · 2026-10-11 Sun 10:30 UTC · link
That isn't enough, who pushes code and repos location is also relevant.
[−]Anduia · 2026-10-11 Sun 10:38 UTC · link
Are you proposing forks of existing languages but in gitlab, and only european can approve PRs? Or a new language and OS? How does that work in practice when open source is public and users can have VPNs?
[−]jacquesm · 2026-10-11 Sun 11:19 UTC · link
The bulk stockholders of GitLab are:

  - Vanguard
  - BlackRock
  - Google Ventures
[−]pjmlp · 2026-10-11 Sun 11:53 UTC · link
Yep, security and digital sovereignty required control of the whole chain.

See how other economies are doing it.

Example,

https://docs.github.com/en/site-policy/other-site-policies/g...

https://go.dev/blog/hello-china

[−]yoavm · 2026-10-11 Sun 11:06 UTC · link
Why is that relevant?
[−]pjmlp · 2026-10-11 Sun 11:44 UTC · link
Bill of materials, digital sovereignty and attack vectors, see xz attack.
[−]_ph_ · 2026-10-11 Sun 10:17 UTC · link
Any open source software should be considered "international" and there are a lot of European contributions to that universe.

The topic of "European" programming languages is highly interesting in the sense that there were a lot of highly developments done in Europe, but they are often less noticed than the counterparts popular in the US. The reason to look more into them would not be so much today's independence, but more to resurrect good concepts that kind of got ignored by history.

There is the ISLisp standard, of course the treasure chest of languages and works boy Nikolas Wirth and so much more. Europe has many great universities, their creations usually are free.

Of course, you could call Python an European language and Go heavily draws from the Wirth's language family.

[−]pjmlp · 2026-10-11 Sun 10:29 UTC · link
The big difference between ISO languages, which were more relevant during cold war days and the modern open source approach is who gets to contribute the code and where are those repos hosted.

Khronos and RISC-V now have locations outside US for a reason.

[−]onel · 2026-10-11 Sun 11:30 UTC · link
Still in it's infancy but Moose OS is fully EU built github.com/onmoose/os